New clear clutch cover design

[fallenangels]

Since everyone and their brother is making clear clutches, we thought that we would improve on the design and have our machinist turn one out for a test run to see if there is any interest in the market for a nicely built "see through" with no bolts showing from the outside.

Enjoy the pics...this is the intial development stage...there is currently no price for the mod until it is finished and we see the amount of time put in to build it, but it is gauranteed to not leak and look good. The top part of the clutch cover will be totaly machined out and the part is going to be welded from the back side so there will be no visable welds, the see through window is going to be done in a transparent blue Plexiglass, the window won't be drilled through so as to eliminate the cracking isues common with these covers, the window will also be O-ringed, and then it will be powdercoated black to match the motor on my Bking.
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/unit176/Bat%20Mobile/IMG00607.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/unit176/Bat%20Mobile/IMG00608.jpg

[fallenangels]

the billet window holder was welded in today and taped for allen-set-studs that will be xxx-locktighted in place, then lock nuts will back a metal plate to seal the window with an O-ring. We were out of the correct size studs, they are on order, the ones in the pics are for mock up puposes only. It should appear much nicer once the window is in and the cover is powdercoated black to mach my motor.
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/unit176/Bat%20Mobile/IMG00056-20091103-1600-1.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/unit176/Bat%20Mobile/IMG00058-20091103-1601-1.jpg
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http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/unit176/Bat%20Mobile/IMG00063-20091103-1604-1.jpg

[oldmanmelo]

that's a nice clean look, I like it! let us know when it will be available.

[fallenangels]

I am not realy trying to market the design yet...and for the record I am not sure what the board policies are about it...but this is the prototype of the clear clutch cover that I am developing. It has taken all the bad flaws from the other designs out there and eliminated them. Until it is finished I can't give any price. I'm not sure about trying to sell them, I mainly posted up the design for others to see that might be attempting to do it...it has been my experience that people want the best parts, but at the cheapest prices so I don't realy know if there is a profit in it unitl it is done.

[Black Sheep]

Looks great....keep going....:thumbs up:.....where are you located?

[SteveO]

I am not realy trying to market the design yet...and for the record I am not sure what the board policies are about it...but this is the prototype of the clear clutch cover that I am developing. It has taken all the bad flaws from the other designs out there and eliminated them. Until it is finished I can't give any price. I'm not sure about trying to sell them, I mainly posted up the design for others to see that might be attempting to do it...it has been my experience that people want the best parts, but at the cheapest prices so I don't realy know if there is a profit in it unitl it is done.


No problem :cheers:

[busapassion]

Price?

[fallenangels]

I can't give a deffinate cost until the development is finished. If I market them on the site I will try to keep the price down so that they are affordable, but I do have to cover my cost. We shall se once it is finished, currently it is off being powdercoated, we polished the window insert portion of the clutch cover and it looks great so far. I realy want to test the design myself and make sure all the bugs are worked out before I market it to you guys. I just don't want any unhappy customers, specialy considering that I am not making any money off them it would be to much hassel. So let me get them right and I'll be sure to post up about it.

[fallenangels]

Ok, my window insert has been polished to a chrome like finish and the cover has been powdercoated black to match the motor. In all honesty if I had a good cover, I used a white one off a show bike motor that I had painted, then the powder coating step could be left out. If the person ordering the cover didn't want the window insert polished this would also save some time and money, but as you can see our polish process is at a level of chrome finish (these pics are of the cover in a slightly dirty state and it still looks realy nice). Once the cost of labor, machine work, Plexiglass, and misc parts that are covered there is about $400 into these covers. The plexiglass is the thickest currely used on the market so as not to warp or crack, like some designs are prone to. It is also machined so as to be true to size for the cover and notched to accept the O-ring so it can be properly sealed to the cover. The backing plate that compresses the window is made of stainless steel so as not to corrode inside the motor.
The O-rings should be in this week, but here is the pics of the current state of the cover:
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/unit176/Bat%20Mobile/IMG00084-20091116-1723.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/unit176/Bat%20Mobile/IMG00083-20091116-1722.jpg
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http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/unit176/Bat%20Mobile/IMG00081-20091116-1721.jpg

[ICECOLDBUSA]

That is beautiful. When do you think it will be priced and up for sale?

[fallenangels]

If the site members are interested and the admind will alow it...I will do a run of the covers for $400. Your covers will have to be in good shape, I will have the window machined out of the cover, the new billet cover will be machined, welded in place, a stainless steel backing plate will be machined to hold the window, the plexiglass window will be machined in either clear or blue (that is the only colors currently available unless you want to pay the $90 up charge to custom order a colored sheet of plexiglass, most every color is available), there is also misc cost of set studs that hold it all together along with the special order O-ring and etc, leaving only the cost of shipping to your location. I will likely have a few of these on hand and can do them on an exchange basis. If not you will have to contact me about the turn-around time to see how busy my machinest is. At this price there is realy no mark up, it is strickly being done for the site members benefit...that being said if the demand is overwhelming I may not be able to do it long.

[limitedbusa]

nice work, looks awesome.:thumbs up:

[fallenangels]

Finaly had a chance to install the blue window in the cover (work keeps me busy most of the time) and I dropped it off to have an industrial gasket made out of some special type marine industry rubber material that is used "Off-shore"...so it should stand up to all the abuse that it can possibly see on my bike. I also have a set of new style LEDs that are said to take the contsant heat of the motor better than the ones most people have been selling, which always seem to go out after about a month worth of use.
Enjoy the updated pics!!!!
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/unit176/Bat%20Mobile/IMG00088-20091119-2225.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/unit176/Bat%20Mobile/IMG00089-20091119-2225.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/unit176/Bat%20Mobile/IMG00090-20091119-2226.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/unit176/Bat%20Mobile/IMG00091-20091119-2226.jpg

[HI HATERS ...BYE HATERS]

finaly had a chance to install the blue window in the cover (work keeps me busy most of the time) and i dropped it off to have an industrial gasket made out of some special type marine industry rubber material that is used "off-shore"...so it should stand up to all the abuse that it can possibly see on my bike. I also have a set of new style leds that are said to take the contsant heat of the motor better than the ones most people have been selling, which always seem to go out after about a month worth of use.
Enjoy the updated pics!!!!
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/unit176/bat%20mobile/img00088-20091119-2225.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/unit176/bat%20mobile/img00089-20091119-2225.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/unit176/bat%20mobile/img00090-20091119-2226.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/unit176/bat%20mobile/img00091-20091119-2226.jpg
looks great but i gotta take out a 2nd mortgage to afford it did u say 400 smackers????????

[HI HATERS ...BYE HATERS]

Looks great though...im just broke

[studioman4fd5]

Hi Haters, man you got me cryin, but i feel you...the black finish bangs it out real nice....real nice job!!!!

[fallenangels]

Currently the over all cost is in the $400 range, that doesn't include anything for development time, gas back and forth, etc...that is just parts, machinist cost, raw materials, polishing cost...etc. I realy didn't have any plans on marketing them, but instead I was making them for a few customers that have show bikes. We have found that most of the clear clutch cover desings on the market leak or the windows crack after short usage periods.
I am trying to cut the cost down to make it affordable, but more than likely that would mean a plain cover with out the gear look/or radiused edges around the ring part that is visable from outside, cheaper lexan vs the thicker plexiglass I used, there would be no engraved logo in the window area, and you would have to polish it yourself or do your own finish to the cover once it is done.
If anyone is interested I can get with my machinist and see how much it would cut down on cost, but I don't think it would be the most eye catching design.

[studioman4fd5]

seriously its well worth the 400.! it looks real nice, and if it doesn't leak, definitely worth the money. keep working on it so you can market it. you'll be fine...:thumbs up:

[eezicar]

very nice:banana:

[HighOnBusa]

Nice work. it looks good!

[toastman]

The backing plate that compresses the window is made of stainless steel so as not to corrode inside the motor.

So then how are you going to stop the electrolysis happening between the stainless and aluminum? Just curious...and a very nice design by the way. Now if that was a Kanji design on the outside...whew.

Nice job fallenangel, and good luck with your venture.

Cheers,

Tony

[eezicar]

i like the look but here's a question, i run a turbo busa pushing 350hp, we due to upgrade her, i would like 500hp on the wheel, how will the design hold up, please forgive the ignorance i just ride these things....?

[fallenangels]

Sorry I was away for a sec, but I thought the site had went under like so many others. Here are some pics of the finished cover installed on my B-Kint. A video also, the cover is air-tight, the LEDs are some of the brightest I have seen, and at night it reminds me of Ironman's Arch Reactor chest peice.
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/unit176/Bat%20Mobile/IMG00041-20100407-1602.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/unit176/Bat%20Mobile/IMG00042-20100407-1602.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/unit176/Bat%20Mobile/th_MVI_3120.jpg (http://s87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/unit176/Bat%20Mobile/?action=view&current=MVI_3120.flv)

[fallenangels]

So then how are you going to stop the electrolysis happening between the stainless and aluminum? Just curious...and a very nice design by the way. Now if that was a Kanji design on the outside...whew.

Nice job fallenangel, and good luck with your venture.

Cheers,

Tony

ITs a clutch cover not a battery plate...:confused:
Electrolysis is the passage of an electric current (http://www.busanation.com/wiki/Electric_current) through an ionic (http://www.busanation.com/wiki/Ion) substance that is either molten or dissolved in a suitable solvent, resulting in chemical reactions at the electrodes and separation of materials.


The main components required to achieve electrolysis are:

A liquid containing mobile ions – an electrolyte
An external source of direct electric current
Two solid rods or plates known as electrodes
The components perform the following roles in the electrolysis process:

The mobile ions are the carriers of electrical current in the liquid (electrolyte). If the ions are not mobile, as in a solid salt (http://www.busanation.com/wiki/Salt) then electrolysis cannot occur.
The externally supplied direct electric current supplies the energy necessary to create or discharge the ions in the liquid or solution. Electric current is carried by electrons in the external circuit.
The electrodes provide the physical interface between

The electrical circuit providing the energy to achieve the electrolysis
The electrolyte containing the ionic materials that are to be separated.

The electrodes must be able to conduct electricity. Electrodes of metal (http://www.busanation.com/wiki/Metal), graphite (http://www.busanation.com/wiki/Graphite) and semiconductor (http://www.busanation.com/wiki/Semiconductor) material are widely used. Choice of suitable electrode depends on:

Chemical reactivity between the electrode and electrolyte
Cost of manufacture of the electrode
Ancillary practical components to achieve electrolysis include:

Vessels to supply, contain and remove the reactants and products
Electrical circuitry
[edit (http://www.busanation.com/w/index.php?title=Electrolysis&action=edit&section=3)] Process of electrolysis

The key process of electrolysis is the interchange of atoms and ions by the removal or addition of electrons from the external circuit. The required products of electrolysis are in some different physical state from the electrolyte and can be removed by some physical process. For example, in the electrolysis of brine (http://www.busanation.com/wiki/Brine) to produce hydrogen and chlorine, the products are gaseous. These gaseous products bubble from the electrolyte and are collected.


A liquid containing mobile ions (electrolyte) is produced by

Solvation (http://www.busanation.com/wiki/Solvation) or reaction of an ionic compound (http://www.busanation.com/wiki/Ionic_compound) with a solvent (http://www.busanation.com/wiki/Solvent) (such as an acid) to produce mobile ions
An ionic compound is melted (fused) by heating
An electrical potential is applied across a pair of electrodes (http://www.busanation.com/wiki/Electrode) immersed in the electrolyte.
Each electrode attracts ions that are of the opposite charge (http://www.busanation.com/wiki/Electric_charge). Positively-charged ions (cations (http://www.busanation.com/wiki/Cation)) move towards the electron-providing (negative) cathode, whereas negatively-charged ions (anions (http://www.busanation.com/wiki/Anion)) move towards the positive anode.
At the electrodes, electrons (http://www.busanation.com/wiki/Electron) are absorbed or released by the atoms and ions. Those atoms that gain or lose electrons to become charged ions pass into the electrolyte. Those ions that gain or lose electrons to become uncharged atoms separate from the electrolyte. The formation of uncharged atoms from ions is called discharging.
The energy required to cause the ions to migrate to the electrodes, and the energy to cause the change in ionic state, is provided by the external source of electrical potential.

I'm no scientist, but I have never seen electolisys occur in simple parts that aren't charged inside of a motor...there are many different type of touching metals inside the motor of your bike that don't experience any type of electrolisys to my knowledge. :umm: The electrical connections of the LEDs are sealed and as far as I know Oil has never been an electricaly conductive liquid.

[fallenangels]

i like the look but here's a question, i run a turbo busa pushing 350hp, we due to upgrade her, i would like 500hp on the wheel, how will the design hold up, please forgive the ignorance i just ride these things....?

Do you have pics of your bike...I run a turbo busa also, that I have no fear of running a similar design on:
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/unit176/Fallenangels%20build/motor/IMG_2618-1.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k146/unit176/Fallenangels%20build/motor/IMG_2625-1.jpg