Super charger

[pjoseph]

Hi,

I am aware that there is a company in the UK selling superchargers for the Busa. (TTS Performance Parts, UK: http://www.tts-performance.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=4210&PHPSESSID=3904cf2105632edc04589e1926271fd4 )


Question: Is there any company in the US that any one is aware of that sells superchargers for the Busa?

thx.
Path.

[Mimic]

I been looking at this for a while now and had laid the idea to rest till I saw HOS's thread and it's re-ignited me interest.

There used to be a company called calisuperbikes.com who was the US distributor of TTS performance kits but their site has been down for a few weeks. The contact was Jason Keats @ 510-453-1217 and his email was Keats@CaliSuperbikes.com but if the site is down, the email is probably down too. I'm not sure if they're still in business.

If not there's another guy I heard of on sh.org called dodobird. I sent him a PM asking if he's still selling them and to come check out this post but his last active date was jan 4th 2008 so I'd give him a few days to see the pm.

If you call Jason, let us know if he's still in business cuz I've been looking at getting akit as well:cheers:

[Pinky]

i didnt think he was still in business
i havent seen him on the boards in quite a while


it might be of interest for someone to start building these but who would do it?
it would be a cool setup
just wont make the power a turbo does

[Mimic]

i didnt think he was still in business
i havent seen him on the boards in quite a while


it might be of interest for someone to start building these but who would do it?
it would be a cool setup
just wont make the power a turbo does

well the site is down so I'm not sure what's going on to tell you the truth.

I've contacted TTS performance in the UK directly to see if they had a supplier for north america. I'll let you know when they get back to me.

As for the Turbo vs supercharger. The 2 are both great for power but you're talking about 2 different types of power.

Turbos are great for producing power higher up in the rpm range. But your ceiling for HP is much higher on turbo then it is on superchargers. The Bigger the turbo the more boost you crank out and the more power you make but the down side with going with a bigger tubo is that it takes longer to spool up.

My buddy's first turbo kit made about 250hp but up to 5000-6000 rpm it made about the same power as a stock bike but over that, it started to boost and by 7-8 you're starting to haul ass! Now people will argue how often are you really under 5-6000rpm and the answer will vary with how much city riding you do.

Now with a stage 1 super charger kit your gonna make about 235-250RWHP as well on stock compression but you're power will start much lower since the charger is being driven from the crank. You'll see what I mean when you look at HOS's dyno graph in his supercharger project post. So if you're looking at just going with a small kit for street riding and you're mostly off the highway stopping frequently I think a supercharger kit may be a better way to go but if you're mostly on open road highways then a turbo is just as good.

If you plan on going crazy power, I think most people opt for the turbo. And for INSANE power, I haven't seen any supercharged busas making 5-6-700 hp. Not to say it hasn't happened but I'm not aware of any or if there's a kit that can put out that much boost.

In my case, I want something driveable at stock wheelbase so I don't see ymself needing more then a stage I kit and since I do a fair amount of city driving, I may go the supercharger route. Again, it depends also on cost. I know calisuperbikes used to sell the stage 1 kit for 4500$USD + shipping. RCC sells the stage 1 kit for 4200$ + shipping (no pipe)

The price used to be fairly close last year but looking at TTS's site, the kit is 2600£ which is about 5100$ USD + shipping with the CURRENT exchange rate. So you're looking at a 900$ + extra shipping difference. You need to carefully weigh your style of riding and decide what you want.

Hope this helps some. I'll let you know soon as TTS gets back to me.

[pjoseph]

I've been in touch with Richard of TTS. The dollar rate conversion makes the price like $5900 with shipping (and a set of used pipes bent to clear the blower). Not cheap, but he says linear power all the way to 230 with stock engine/pipes. Thinking of adding it to my 03 Busa and then selling it should I feel its too much for me, so as to recoup the money.

[Pinky]

As for the Turbo vs supercharger. The 2 are both great for power but you're talking about 2 different types of power.

Turbos are great for producing power higher up in the rpm range. But your ceiling for HP is much higher on turbo then it is on superchargers. The Bigger the turbo the more boost you crank out and the more power you make but the down side with going with a bigger tubo is that it takes longer to spool up.


some of this is very true
but the range of power on a turbo truely depends on the size of the turbo wheels and size of the turbo
the smaller turbos have alot less lag (and can still make 250+ hp)

a super charger is also harder at this time to control the boost

i would love to create a supercharged busa but there are a few things i would have to perfect before i would atempt it
i would run a stand alone to compensate for the fueling problems right off the bat
i will never trust an fmu NEVER (my opinion)
i would also build the kit myself not buy it

there is an outlaw busa with a super charger that is making huge power but i dont remember the exact numbers
but i do remember it being very high up there
but i think he might have been running nitro???
but i dont remember exactly about his bike
and cant find the posts?

[pjoseph]

i would love to create a supercharged busa but there are a few things i would have to perfect before i would atempt it
i would run a stand alone to compensate for the fueling problems right off the bat
i will never trust an fmu NEVER (my opinion)
i would also build the kit myself not buy it



Pinky...what is an fmu? Also, what do you mean "compensate for the fueling problems" and lastly, why won't you buy a kit from say someone.

Re. the super vs. turbo, I was at the NHRA drag race finals at Las Vegas and it suddenly REGISTERED on me that all top fuel bikes are super charged. This includes bikes like Larry McBride. So, it looks like for real serious drag racing, super is the way to go. No?

[Pinky]

the reason they use them is the make power while also running nitro and low compression (6:1 or something like that)
but it takes over 500 hp to turn over that supercharger
so they actually make 8500 hp but after the charger robs power it makes more like 8000

a turbo doesnt rob horsepower like a supercharger does
and you cant control the boost from a charger in stages like you can a turbo at this point in time
on a bike you run stages of boost to control the power as you go down the track
a TF or FC uses one gear and a clutch to pull them down the track and not lose control
a bike uses stages of power to get down the track
if you launched a bike without a wheelie bar it would flip if it made the same power in all gears (if high like the turbo bikes do)

if you watch the racing of the outlaw bikes, prostreet bikes, superstreet bikes they dont run the same power in first gear as they do in 5th or 6th ;)


an fmu is a rising rate fuel pressure regulator
the stock injectors are only good to 200-230 hp before adding a fmu
good to 300 if pushed with a fmu
an ecu that controlls much larger injectors (low impedance injectors if large enough not to be able to tune at idle w/ a power comander) would be much better to use to control the fueling problems

the fuel is the biggest problem with motor failures on boosted bike
supercharger/turbo alike

[Pinky]

i only use my builder and i on turbos and any other alike
i like to do different things then the norm

[Pinky]

from what ive heard the turbo is banned from TF and FC

[pjoseph]

Thanks Pinky.

Question: I have someone willing to sell me his 03 Busa (slightly scratched fairing, dent in tank) for 5,500. Add on the TTS supercharger at about 6,000 and I am at 11,500 say 13,000 after labor.

Any idea if I can sell it for the same price (13k)? I'd count the lessons learned worth the time I put in.

[Pinky]

nope id say maybe 10-11 but id be hard pressed to get the full amount back out of any build

even prostreet bikes dont sell for build price


but thats just my opinion

[Pinky]

where are you from?

[Tybalt]

nope id say maybe 10-11 but id be hard pressed to get the full amount back out of any build

even prostreet bikes dont sell for build price


but thats just my opinion
+1 you never see what you put into the bikes back, but you do it because of the passion of building a bike. i had my 2002, spent crazy $ over last winter, i sold it because i wanted the new 2008, i lost huge on my 02, basically just got back what i paid for the busa stock:head meets wall: oh well-Duane

[Tybalt]

found this one

[Busa_Grenaa]

found this one

is it a TTS ?

[Tybalt]

is it a TTS ?

I Dont know?:confused: