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chipofsc
04-14-2009, 10:56 AM
I do a lot of street racing and I have found that a GSXR 1000 with a little head work and different cams will walk away from a o8 Busa. This has happen to me twice. I have a full exhaust system and 4" over swingarm lowered about 2". I don't get it. I can run away from most bikes zx 14 other busas but those gsxr 1000 will fly. Anything I can do to mine other than engine work to keep up?

Got-Busa?
04-15-2009, 04:58 PM
When you starting modding them all bets are off. If you are talking head/cams, etc. that's a totally different ball game. Also, how much do you weight...?

There are a lot more factors when you are drag racing.

Equal riders similar weight AND MODS....the 08 BUSA is going to be tough to beat. If you aren't getting 100% from your bike then anything is possible. Do the same mods to the 08 that the 1k has done and things will change.

What mods do you have done and what do your slips look like...? 60', 330', 1/8, 1/4, MPH...?

chipofsc
04-15-2009, 08:30 PM
I weigh 180 and he weighs 170. Have not made it to the track yet. Dead stop I can jump him but about third gear he comes by me. I was told his bike has run in the 8s with a 130 lb rider. It has a 50 shot of spray but he has yet to us it. Lee's performance said with the same work to my Busa I would walk away from him but you are talking 4000.00 bucks. I don't want it that bad.

blacklabelracing
04-15-2009, 11:39 PM
Your bike has the potential to destroy his bike. there is no replacment for displacement...remember that.

busaboy
04-16-2009, 12:48 AM
$386 Web intake cams exchange
$1000 head work
$250-400 dry shot
beating that 1000 priceless:oh yeah:

LeeY8s
04-16-2009, 08:48 AM
there is also no replacement for him riding a lighter bike. horsepower is great but the horsepower to weight ratio is what matters. The busa may have a whopping 10 more hp from the factory but the 1000 weighs more than 100 pounds less. A busa can be made to be faster than a fast 1k but it takes more than a swingarm and a pipe.

ocat-RR
04-16-2009, 12:23 PM
I am shocked no one has mentioned GEARING.

Throw a 17t front on there then lets see him keep up.

Just a thought.

blacklabelracing
04-16-2009, 02:11 PM
there is also no replacement for him riding a lighter bike. horsepower is great but the horsepower to weight ratio is what matters. The busa may have a whopping 10 more hp from the factory but the 1000 weighs more than 100 pounds less. A busa can be made to be faster than a fast 1k but it takes more than a swingarm and a pipe.


Our Busa's also have more torque which matters a lot in your 60foot times...in fact, I would say your 60ft time on a motorcycle is your most important time. And there are things you can do to lighten your Busa btw

blacklabelracing
04-16-2009, 02:13 PM
I am shocked no one has mentioned GEARING.

Throw a 17t front on there then lets see him keep up.

Just a thought.


Good point, gearing is important as well... i think my bike is 1 down 3 up. Find the best combo for the distance that you are racing.

Got-Busa?
04-16-2009, 04:17 PM
I weigh 180 and he weighs 170. Have not made it to the track yet. Dead stop I can jump him but about third gear he comes by me. I was told his bike has run in the 8s with a 130 lb rider. It has a 50 shot of spray but he has yet to us it. Lee's performance said with the same work to my Busa I would walk away from him but you are talking 4000.00 bucks. I don't want it that bad.

So what is the issue? Are you mad that a 1k with a few thousand ($,$$$) in mods is beating you...? :confused:

I don't see the problem here. It's the same as anything else, you've got to pay-to-play. You are comparing a bike with motor work (which could mean anything unless you saw them build it and install it) vs your 100% stock engine bike. That's to be expected. Heck, any of them will run in the 8's when prepped right using a 130lb. jockey that knows what he's doing.

That's like owning a stock Corvette and wondering why a modified Mustang with a Supercharger is beating you.... :whistling:

You either need to do similiar mods or get a 40-shot to give you a little more kick. How much distance is he putting on you...? Is he flying by or barely pulling and then shutting down...? Have you checked his bottle, I wouldn't be surprised if he's spraying you to boot and denying it. Anything can happen when street racing, it's all a game..... :oh yeah:

LeeY8s
04-16-2009, 04:32 PM
i know drag racing as much as the next guy. so i do know about 60ft times. and yes i do ride a busa. im not in denial about how fast they are or how heavy they are. you can definatly lighten them up and yes gearing changes do help. but facts are facts.

blacklabelracing
04-16-2009, 11:56 PM
i know drag racing as much as the next guy. so i do know about 60ft times. and yes i do ride a busa. im not in denial about how fast they are or how heavy they are. you can definatly lighten them up and yes gearing changes do help. but facts are facts.

I have buddies who ride 1000's and put up low 9's all day long. They are fast.... Busa's are a little more tricky at the strip as far as launching and getting out of 1st, getting your 60ft down. But if you REALLY know how to ride, then you can beat 1000's all day long. Thats all I'm saying. But the same amount of money into a Busa that you do in a 1000 and it should be no question that the Busa, with a skilled rider will win 8 outa 10 times.

chipofsc
04-17-2009, 01:08 PM
I had a R! before I purchased the Busa. The 1000 ran by me like i had the brakes on but on the Busa he comes by but not as fast. I rode his bike and when that thing hits third gear it pulls so hard it will scare you the first time. The NOS has never been shot. I know. He said he don't need it. I know a stock bike will not keep up with a bike with a built motor. I saw the bill sheet for the 1000 head port and cams only. 195 hp to the rear wheels. His bike is a good 100 lbs lighter that the Busa. When I get him at the track it will be different. He has little experence at the track. He has a serious traction problem also.

Got-Busa?
04-17-2009, 02:22 PM
What does your bike dyno on the same machine that his makes 195...?

Either some light head work and cams or a 40-shot and he'll never come by you. Then again once he sees you walking away, he's going to spray you and come around again. It's all a big game and normally the best rider with the deepest pockets wins...

blacklabelracing
04-17-2009, 02:26 PM
What does your bike dyno on the same machine that his makes 195...?

Either some light head work and cams or a 40-shot and he'll never come by you. Then again once he sees you walking away, he's going to spray you and come around again. It's all a big game and normally the best rider with the deepest pockets wins...

Agree completely...

chipofsc
04-17-2009, 08:23 PM
I think the spray is the best deal. I'm taking it to Lee's performance for the dyno tune maybe I should let them install the NOS system without telling him. I need to hide the bottle. Maybe in the hump.

blacklabelracing
04-17-2009, 10:10 PM
yea you can hide it in the tail section no problem, just gotta find a bottle that fits...

V8Pinto
04-18-2009, 10:49 AM
Yeah the literbikes are pretty stout but you're talking mods and when you start talking mods well...

The "most modded" Busa runs over 360MPH so....

Abusive
04-19-2009, 05:28 PM
Put an intake cam on the exhaust side and have the cams degree'd I'll bet the results will change!:thumbs up:

chipofsc
04-19-2009, 05:35 PM
Tell me more about these cams.