New potential rider

[M-Ten]

Hey everybody.. I've been looking over this site for a few weeks now, and I have a few questions.. For the last couple of months I've been considering buying a bike, but I don't really know where to start. I've never rode a bike before, and I know that I shouldn't be learning on a busa, so I just need some advice...

I know there's a course I can take that will teach me how to ride and all the basics.. But I wonder if I would be ready for one after that..?

I'm not new to going fast, but going THIS fast is a whole different thing :oh yeah:

So what did you guys do to start learning, and how long did it take before you bought a busa?

Any advice would be helpful.. Thanks!

[PATRIOT]

Dont start on a busa mate , get a 250 to start , get your skills up ( about 1 year) then go too a 600 or 1000 cc ( i year) .
Going from a 250 to 1000 is a big jump , going from a 1000 to a busa is a bigger jump, going from nothing to a hayabusa is a funeral.

people think if they take it easy they will be fine , the only way I can explain it in car terms , imagine getting your learners licsense in a forula 1 car .

i started on a 250 , then went too a VTR1000 F Firestorm then the hayabusa.
I know it sound like a long time but if you want to be posting here in a year or two start small , learn and then step up .
that my advise .

[M-Ten]

What would be a good 250 to start on? I don't know much about bikes at all.. still learning and picking up what I can from reading..

Maybe name a few bikes I can look into?

[PATRIOT]

they may have differant names in americia but i will try

naked bike : Honda VTR250 : they are V Twins , torquey , good riding bikes

Cruisers: Hyosung aquiillia good torquey 250 ( especially for bigger blokes).


Sports : Suzuki Bandit , suzuki across, 4 cylinder .

pick they style of bike you like , check on line at bike sales places, look at the differant types, then once you choose your type of bike , ( sports , naked cruiser) then pick the make and model.

sit on lots of bikes , test ride lots of bikes, thats the best way .

[Tybalt]

What would be a good 250 to start on? I don't know much about bikes at all.. still learning and picking up what I can from reading..

Maybe name a few bikes I can look into?

:cheers: welcome, keep us posted

[Busa1]

Dont start on a busa mate , get a 250 to start , get your skills up ( about 1 year) then go too a 600 or 1000 cc ( i year) .
Going from a 250 to 1000 is a big jump , going from a 1000 to a busa is a bigger jump, going from nothing to a hayabusa is a funeral.

people think if they take it easy they will be fine , the only way I can explain it in car terms , imagine getting your learners licsense in a forula 1 car .

i started on a 250 , then went too a VTR1000 F Firestorm then the hayabusa.
I know it sound like a long time but if you want to be posting here in a year or two start small , learn and then step up .
that my advise .


Very, very sound advise PATRIOT :oh yeah::oh yeah::oh yeah::oh yeah::oh yeah::oh yeah::oh yeah:

[M-Ten]

Awesome guys thanks a lot for the quick replies!

I'm really anxious to start, but I wanna make sure I do it the right way..

What was the hardest part about learning to ride? I'm not quite sure how the shifting works on a bike.. is it similiar to cars?

[DOOM&GLOOM]

Very, very sound advise PATRIOT :oh yeah::oh yeah::oh yeah::oh yeah::oh yeah::oh yeah::oh yeah:

M-Ten, I really respect that you took the time listen and reseach for information before doing something that you my regret.:thumbs up:

It's a common fact that most new rides will drop their bike in there first year(Do you really want to drop a beautiful machine like the BUSA? Not likely.).
You really needed to get a motorcycle drivers course booked and when you do listen to what these are saying. The instructors give a sh!t about you, they will take the time to help and most of all ask questions if you dont know, even if they seem stupid to you "DO IT" so you can feel better and gain more confidence( The price for cool is paid for in stupidity.Quote from "DOOM&GLOOM")
You need to know and practice the basics first and master them with some confidence (You need to learn to walk before you can run.)

Get a small beater for the first year and then advance(step(1)250-400cc-step(2)600-750cc and then the BUSA

Trust us we understand why you want the KING of BIKES and what comes with riding the KING. But the only way you will enjoy the perks of the bike is be able to ride the bike properly. There would be nothing worse then making an a$$ out of yourself in front of your peers because you couldnt handle the bike or worse get killed or injured!

I truely think your on the right path in your attitude for riding a motorcyle, please keep it up and dont let be cool interfere with that"remeber my quote!").

So I hope this helped, and please feel free to join in even though you dont have a BUSA"YET!" and ask questions.

[kml666]

ASK ALL YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT STARTING OUT RIDING AT MSGROUG.ORG.

http://www.msgroup.org/

It's a motorcycle saftey forum for beginners and experts alike.

Comes with the KML seal of approval.

Even you old timers might learn something from the tips section. :oh yeah:

:cheers:

cheers
ken

[busakid]

Buy a Turbo, put it on a postie bike ....hmmm now theres an idea ....

[M-Ten]

Good info guys.. thanks again for the help.

If I can find something cheap that I would be able to learn on for a while and get the basics down I would feel a lot more comfortable advancing. I just don't want to spend a lot of money in the proceses..

I see a few people started out learning on the busa.. Only thing I'd really be worried about it dropping it.. I'm not sure how easy it is to learn.

[DOOM&GLOOM]

Buy a Turbo, put it on a postie bike ....hmmm now theres an idea ....

Like I said " The price to be cool is payed for by stupiity".

My friend kml666 made an excellent suggestion thats worth looking into.

But I would like to see somebody but a turbo on a 250cc, that would be interesting.:umm:

[1WildTurkey]

A lot of us started out on Dirt Bikes.

[M-Ten]

So after talking to you guys, and a few friends that ride.. I was looking into maybe starting on a GSXR600 or maybe 750?

[LeeY8s]

it seems i always disagree but i started out on a zx12. then a gsxr750 then my first busa. but i also rode dirtbikes since i was like 6. but its all in what YOU feel comfortable on, not what someone tells you that you should be comfortable on.

[boostin20]

I would say start out with a 600 just because I have ridden a 250, and they feel like they don't have enough power to get out of their own way. I would be worried about gassing a 250 to get out of the way of a car.

[M-Ten]

How big of a difference is there between a 600, 750, and 1000?

I definitely don't wanna start on a 1000, but if I can find a good deal on a 600 or 750 I'll be picking it up.

[Geriatricintraining]

Hmm depends on what 600 or 750. A first bike and no experience GSXR750 = no way, GSX750 = OK Any bike is going to feel rather quick to whatever you have been used to, a modern 600 will piss over most supercars to 100. Better start small and work up quickly when you gain experience, i've seen plenty of people get on 600's and shit themselvesA sensible bike 250 / 500 isn't sexy but you get to learn a lot very quickly. 6 months later a 600/750, a year later and anything you want. Make the right choice and keep safe :)

[justabusagirl]

im sure most wont agree with this but, the 600 750 and 1000cc dont have to much of a weight diffrence. They are all pretty light, of course the 1000 is heavier but not by much. If you are stupid on a bike then any size of bike can hurt you or kill you. If i were going to get a 600cc and knew that i would be moving up to a 1000 or busa id just get the bike i wanted . You dont have to get on a bike and go full throttle, just take it easy learn the controls, learn how to balance the bike, practice in places were ther is not alot of traffic so you can get the feel for the bike somewere safe . Im not saying that my opinion is the correct one and if you do get a chance to practice on a smaller bike that would be great, and like others here have stated a dirt bike is great for learning on , if you drop them they are easy to get back up, and it wont get the amount of damage that a sportbike would get. Its really hard to know how a first time rider is going to do, ive saw friends just learning that did great they took it easy, learned to shift smoothly and stop smoothly and ive saw the ones that jerked it in gear and shot foreward out of control then panicked and forgot were the brakes were and eventually freaked out and droped it,

[fastblackblur]

For learning get something that is not balls to the wall fast, but still has a little zip to it. I always knew i was going to get an insanely fast bike eventualy but i figured something slower would be better to learn the basics on. I was lucky enough to get a good deal on a ninja 500r. I practiced around my neighborhood for about about 2 months then took the MSF course. The course realy did help alot, mainly with my mental attitude imo. After that I road everywhere i needed to go for about 3 or 4 months on my ninja. I started noticing that i was developing some bad habits on the 500r. Things that probably would get me in trouble on a more powerful or heavier bike. I noticed that i had the throttle pinned quite a bit and that I could really throw the bike around pretty easy. That (along with some other considerations) was when i decided to go get my hayabusa. In a perfect world I would have moved up to a 600cc sport bike before the hayabusa but i knew what kind of bike i wanted and a 600cc bike was not it. Going up to the busa was a huge jump, compared to the 500r it felt like it was going to jump out from underneath me when throttle it up. Buying the hayabusa was the most rewarding purchase i have ever made.

[_WOLFMAN_]

A friend of mine started on I know of all bikes a Kawasaki Ninja 650 which is actually a twin. For a Suzuki look at the SV650 both are excellant starter bike with not as much power as the inline 4 but are great to learn on and have good torque bands.