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Quasar
05-30-2008, 05:02 AM
Howdy members. I've been riding on Pirelli Diablos and Diablo Corsas over the past few years, but the very recent and utterly ludicrous 40% increase in Pirelli tire prices has got me looking for a more reasonably priced higher mileage set of tires.
I’m likely going to switch to “Conti Road Attacks” (Continental high mileage tires). Just a couple months ago at www.parts411.com (where I’ve been purchasing all my tires for many years) a 190/50ZR17 Pirelli Diablo was $143.09. Now they’re trying to sell the exact same tire for $200.66! Most other places have greatly increased their Pirelli tire prices as well (so likely Pirelli oriented greed), so it’s time to go for a much higher mileage, less expensive tire.
The write-up for the Conti Road Attacks puts these tires in a very favorable light, so I thought I'd share this with board members. I think I’ll be ordering a 190/50ZR17 Conti Road Attack rear later today (my fronts are still new Diablo Corsa III's, so I won't be ordering any front Conti Road Attacks at this time). The "Conti Road Attacks" are currently $144.54 at www.parts411.com (http://www.parts411.com/) and these rear tires are apparently superior to the Michelin “Pilot Roads” and Metzler Z6’s in every way and still deliver greater tire mileage. Here's a link to www.parts411.com (http://www.parts411.com) and their Conti Road Attack rear tire... The "Conti Sport Attacks" are the stickier version and have an even nicer looking tread pattern, but I'm looking for the highest mileage this time around, so I'm going with the Conti Road Attacks.
http://www.parts411.com/acbasp/stores/1/-CONTI-ROAD-ATTACK-19050-ZR17-CONTINENTAL-P80300C7495.aspx
Here’s an initial write-up for the Conti Road Attacks …
http://www.canyonchasers.net/reviews/accessories/road-attack.php (http://www.canyonchasers.net/reviews/accessories/road-attack.php)
Here’s the Conti Road Attacks update…
http://www.canyonchasers.net/blog/archives/82-Conti-Road-Attack-Update!.html (http://www.canyonchasers.net/blog/archives/82-Conti-Road-Attack-Update!.html)
Tybalt
05-30-2008, 06:46 AM
Great read thanks, i am going SC's next , i have for years been buying my tires pp ct's, HPX, etc for $300 a set average always, i hope i can get the super corsas for that.
steelernation
05-30-2008, 08:17 AM
The dealer tried to sell me a set these super sticky high mileage tires (Conti road Attack) and I could not understand how that was possible. I ended up with the Pirelli Diablo and I am happy and know the grip is there when I need it. Just dont know I can trust a high mileage tire in serious twisties. good luck whatever you decide
:cheers:
VNSVLE
05-30-2008, 09:20 AM
I just wish we had tire's that cheap here. I would not complain as much when i have to put a newy on. A standard bridgey 015 ...............$330 fitted(about 10-15 for the fitment)
Tybalt
05-30-2008, 10:04 AM
The dealer tried to sell me a set these super sticky high mileage tires (Conti road Attack) and I could not understand how that was possible. I ended up with the Pirelli Diablo and I am happy and know the grip is there when I need it. Just dont know I can trust a high mileage tire in serious twisties. good luck whatever you decide
:cheers:
Yes i tested my bros busa with these tires and i loved them, i dont really care how long they last, the feel is totally worth it:not worthy:
Quasar
05-30-2008, 11:24 AM
The dealer tried to sell me a set these super sticky high mileage tires (Conti road Attack) and I could not understand how that was possible. I ended up with the Pirelli Diablo and I am happy and know the grip is there when I need it. Just dont know I can trust a high mileage tire in serious twisties. good luck whatever you decide
:cheers:
I understand your sentiment 100% and I have only have compliments for the grip and feel of the Pirelli Diablo rear tire (which I would have stayed with had Pirelli not gone so $$$ greedy), but quite frankly, at $200.66 a tire, the Pirelli Diablo rear tire has simply overpriced itself. It just isn't worth $200 (it's a $150 tire at best) especially for the relatively low tire mileage it yields. I typically only get 5,000 miles out of a Diablo rear and I only achieve that mileage because most of my rides to and from the mountains are at steady highway cruise speeds and I accelerate only moderately to conserve on fuel and rear tire wear. Most aggressive riders won't get anywhere near 5,000 miles out of a Diablo rear tire; they simply couldn't. Incidentally, I ride beyond the wear markers to get every last bit of mileage that I can out of a tire, so if you toss a Diablo rear as it hits its wear marker, you'll easily cheat yourself out of 500 to 1,000 additional easy-type miles.
Since Pirelli increased its tire prices by roughly 40% (which requires a new rear Diablo every season for the distance that I ride), a single purchase of the cheaper Conti Road Attack will eliminate two Pirelli Diablo tire sales, so Pirelli only dicked themselves by raising their prices to absurd as they did. I'm willing to wager that I can get double the mileage and get roughly 10,000 miles out of the Conti Road Attack. True, I'll likely have to be less aggressive, but at today's fuel prices, who can afford to ride aggressive when each of their rides are at least 250 miles (mountain rides to my dad's house in the mountains and back).
Years ago (and on my new 1992 Honda CBR600F2), its OEM Michelin rear tire (an X59 as I recollect) gave me several years of usage and I never did wear it out. When I removed it, it still had at least half of its tread (which actually included several short, but smoking burn-outs) and had given me 17,300 miles of service and I ran that little CBR hard wherever I went. I only removed the tire as its tread was starting to show signs of age by feeling noticeably harder/slipperier. I went with a Metzler tire after that and I could hardly believe how quick the Metzler was bald even without doing a single burn-out. Metzler's have always yielded the worst tire mileage in my experience, so I didn't go back to a Metzler after that, I went back to the OEM X59 Michelin which was only the 2nd replacement tire when I sold the bike at 33,000 miles and it still had plenty of tread left at that point.
The 1992 CBR600F2's dry weight was 408 pounds, so my lighter-than-stock 99 Hayabusa isn't enormously heavier and should still yield some fairly good mileage if the Conti Road Attack is anything like the write-ups.
Financially, my budget is getting too tight to purchase 5,000 mile or less type rear tires, so good-bye Pirelli, your absurd high prices just lost you this long time customer.
Quasar
06-01-2008, 07:10 PM
I ordered the Conti Road Attack 190/50ZR17 this past Friday. I'll let everyone know what I think of this rear tire after I get a chance to ride it for a few hundred miles. I'm hoping to get at least 8,000 miles out of this rear tire, but hoping for more like 9,000 to 10,000 miles. Only time will tell...
WARputer
06-01-2008, 07:26 PM
I ordered the Conti Road Attack 190/50ZR17 this past Friday. I'll let everyone know what I think of this rear tire after I get a chance to ride it for a few hundred miles. I'm hoping to get at least 8,000 miles out of this rear tire, but hoping for more like 9,000 to 10,000 miles. Only time will tell...
Please do keep us informed......if you can get that kind of mileage with good grip, I'll buy Avons no more . :oh yeah:
Quasar
06-03-2008, 05:03 PM
Please do keep us informed......if you can get that kind of mileage with good grip, I'll buy Avons no more . :oh yeah:
I'm not expecting these tires to replace quality sticky tires, just yield loooog miles at a fairly reasonable price. :thumbs up:
Cali Badazz !!!
06-05-2008, 11:25 AM
i am on my third set of tires and i have 5000 miles on it.. with any dot race tire i can shred a rear in a short afternoon on my busa!! crazy how HP and weight just shave rubber off them. i recently started to get a feel for sliding the rear on corner exit and keeping it on the gas to prevent the bucking but my tire bill has caused some concern at home..:whistling:i got the best mileage out of the stock tires but i was just learning to ride it.. i might go back to them if they offer a 190/55/17 cuz they offered great grip even as they wore past the tread markers. the dunlop qulifier is more sticky and gives me huge confidence up front but they loose that superior grip after a few heat cycles and the bike handles much differant as they wear. i also find the soft outer part of the rear to be too soft for the busa. i also will be making a change next time maybe even get crazy and try the maxxis! had great success offroad with their tires. no flats in 2 seasons of desert racing..
Mercenary
06-10-2008, 12:28 AM
From what i gathered the information from my friend is that during high speed its not that stable,can feel the rear a bit wobbly.
busakid
06-10-2008, 02:52 AM
You guys have it cheap - my rear PP2C is $350 and front $260, Pirellis are a bit more again.
You have to decide what kind of riding you are going to be doing, if you are a twisties guy (as I am) then a long life tire just wont cut it as far as grip goes (tried many different tires over 35yrs of riding) so you can not compare tyres or personal experiance as its riding style and experiance that dictates your personal choice and wallet opening. Myself I will always choose grip over longevity even in tough financial times (just ride less aggresivly) and thats my personal decision.
Quasar
06-10-2008, 10:04 AM
You guys have it cheap - my rear PP2C is $350 and front $260, Pirellis are a bit more again.
You have to decide what kind of riding you are going to be doing, if you are a twisties guy (as I am) then a long life tire just wont cut it as far as grip goes (tried many different tires over 35yrs of riding) so you can not compare tyres or personal experiance as its riding style and experiance that dictates your personal choice and wallet opening. Myself I will always choose grip over longevity even in tough financial times (just ride less aggresivly) and thats my personal decision.
I'm definitely into the twisties, but I'm willing to sacrifice a bit of lean performance/grip if I can get closer to double the tire mileage. Since each of my rides deals with far more long distance cruising to get to the mountains, I have to make "twisties performance" second in priority.
With the price of oil/fuel steadily increasing, so will the prices of tires and I'm freakin' tired of having to change a rear tire every 4,500 to 5,000 miles. I typically get at least 9,000 miles out of a front tire, so if I can manage to get close to the same out of a rear tire, I can mount a new front and rear tire at the same time rather than two rears for every one front tire.
I'm over all able to take it far easier out on the roadways these days and still enjoy my ride since I get to ride in the scenic mountains and visit with my dad once I arrive. Improved tire mileage has become a necessity for me.
Quasar
06-10-2008, 12:24 PM
Well, the rear Conti Road Attack tire just arrived and I have to say, I like the tacky feel on my fingers. That's a good sign.
Now, it just came off the hot UPS truck (we're in the middle of a heat wave, so the truck is quite warm inside). While the tire wasn't as hot as it would be when riding in this weather, its warm temperature allowed me to feel how tacky the tire gets when warm and I'm impressed, as I was afraid it might feel hard and slippery, which wasn't the case.
Naturally, its performance out on the road will be the true test, but in general, I've found tires that don't feel tacky when warm don't typically provide the superior grip, so this tire is initially inspiring.
I'm also impressed with its tread depth in the tire's center. It measures about 9/32", so just over a 1/4" deep.
Here's a couple pictures of it...
Tybalt
06-10-2008, 12:34 PM
Well, the rear Conti Road Attack tire just arrived and I have to say, I like the tacky feel on my fingers. That's a good sign.
Now, it just came off the hot UPS truck (we're in the middle of a heat wave, so the truck is quite warm inside). While the tire wasn't as hot as it would be when riding in this weather, its warm temperature allowed me to feel how tacky the tire gets when warm and I'm impressed, as I was afraid it might feel hard and slippery, which wasn't the case.
Naturally, its performance out on the road will be the true test, but in general, I've found tires that don't feel tacky when warm don't typically provide the superior grip, so this tire is initially inspiring.
I'm also impressed with its tread depth in the tire's center. It measures about 9/32", so just over a 1/4" deep.
Here's a couple pictures of it...
it looks great, look forward to your feedback on how it performs:thumbs up:
Cali Badazz !!!
06-10-2008, 12:48 PM
i have heard great things about the conti tires. i get a set of dunlop qualifiers mounted and balanced for $340.. i only get 1500 miles max. the price is right grip is awesome for the first 1000 miles but falls off as it nears tread blocks. maxxis does not offer a 190 55 17 only a 50. i am wondering at 36 psi if the conti or dunlop roadsmart will heat up and get tacky. i think they will. busa is just tearing the Q's to shreds though. not the right tire for the big busa imo.
Quasar
06-10-2008, 12:51 PM
it looks great, look forward to your feedback on how it performs:thumbs up:
I knew you'd like the picture. :oh yeah:
I do like the tread pattern of this Conti "Road" Attack and the Conti "Sport" Attacks have a similar, but even better looking tread pattern. :thumbs up:
Cali Badazz !!!
06-10-2008, 12:55 PM
the sport attacks might be my next tire. i am willing to try something new. are they made in usa?
Quasar
06-10-2008, 01:15 PM
the sport attacks might be my next tire. i am willing to try something new. are they made in usa?
Made in the U.S.A? Sad but true; this country hardly makes anything these days. Continental "tyres" are manufactured in Hannover, Germany and as per Wikipedia, is the 4th largest tyre manufacturer in the world, which is good news. Germany makes some quality products. :cheers:
Here's the link...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_AG
Cali Badazz !!!
06-10-2008, 02:48 PM
thats why all the jettas i see around town all have conti tires..
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