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Cali Badazz !!!
05-05-2008, 05:34 PM
had some clutch slippage today on my k8 . gave the lever a flick to do a wheelie and rpms went up but front end didn't.. tire wasn't spinning. almost 4000 miles. happened b4 on another bike i had with slipper clutch.. anybody got any ideas?

random
07-31-2008, 06:42 AM
Hi Falconer,

as I have written in another thread, the clutch can be slipping sometimes when u are using full-synthetic oil. A very experienced technician from Suzuki told it to me. I don't know other reasons.
Greetings

steelernation
07-31-2008, 09:58 AM
quit being a girl and riding the clutch. lol :rofl: I did hear that running full synthetic did cause clutch slippage. I never had a problem but you seem to ride harder than I do.

random
07-31-2008, 10:23 AM
Hi, it can cause it, it must not.........
the reason for that is the synthesis between motor- and transmission-oil. The synthetic oil is not optimal (compromise) for the clutch.
Regards

Cali Badazz !!!
07-31-2008, 10:34 AM
well my bike has regular oil always has always will. the slippage was caused cuz the slipper engages even rolling to a stop in gear. try it if you dont believe me. you can feel it slipping on decel right up to you stop. i feel like someone is slipping it for me on hard decel right before i flick it in. the problem with my wheelie is i rolled off the gas then hard back on while the slipper was still ramping up and slipping i was asking it to engage. the clutch is really quite impressive IMO. it never repeated it and when it happened on another bike i did the same thing i chopped the throttle then got in it hard to wheelie. this is an old thread i since figured it out..

DOOM&GLOOM
07-31-2008, 01:50 PM
I brought this up with a buddy of mine, he explained to me that most slipper clutches dont last for too long and have to be replaced if frequently used when riding hard, this is common for the bike to react in the way you described.

There a great idea to stop the rear from skiding, however costly and dont last long if you are realling on them to much.:cheers:

Tybalt
07-31-2008, 01:55 PM
I brought this up with a buddy of mine, he explained to me that most slipper clutches dont last for too long and have to be replaced if frequently used when riding hard, this is common for the bike to react in the way you described.

There a great idea to stop the rear from skiding, however costly and dont last long if you are realling on them to much.:cheers:

I go with HD springs, a heavier spring like Barnett etc........ just the springs, replace them with a HD spring and you are good to go.

WARputer
07-31-2008, 01:57 PM
I brought this up with a buddy of mine, he explained to me that most slipper clutches dont last for too long and have to be replaced if frequently used when riding hard, this is common for the bike to react in the way you described.

There a great idea to stop the rear from skiding, however costly and dont last long if you are realling on them to much.:cheers:

So I guess it's better to go thru brake pads than clutches ......note to self....... take it easy on the downshifting. :oh yeah:

DOOM&GLOOM
07-31-2008, 02:07 PM
Do the slipper clutches on the GenII's have a tooth/cogg that grabs the basket? and if so if its that kind there is apossiblity that the tooth can be worn rounded from use?:cheers:

Cali Badazz !!!
08-01-2008, 12:28 PM
so far in what i have read the most common word used to describe the k8 busa clutch when drag racing is ROBUST.. i have also read that it gets real "grabby" when hot. but that one guy did 2000 launches? thats seems high but thats what the article said. i had serious issues with slippage on my TLR1000. as did alot of other guys i know. we tried all the usual fixes so i sold it!! the k8 busa clutch is a gem when riding like i do. normally i would feed the clutch out slow if i came in too hot so the back tire wouldn't chatter or skid. i can actually feel it happening without my input and it's very weird/cool. throw a hard downshift from third to 1st as you come to a light and you can feel it feedind the clutch in and out almost to like 3-5mph then you feel it let go right b4 stall speed. i love this bike!!

Quasar
08-04-2008, 02:42 PM
I brought this up with a buddy of mine, he explained to me that most slipper clutches dont last for too long and have to be replaced if frequently used when riding hard, this is common for the bike to react in the way you described.

There a great idea to stop the rear from skiding, however costly and dont last long if you are realling on them to much.:cheers:

Your buddy has ill-advised you about slipper clutches.

Clutches are going to wear based upon the way an individual uses their clutch just as brake pads will provide one person with many years of service while another only gets a season from the same type of brake pads. Case in point, my 99 Hayabusa has its original clutch components and I can still give it full throttle in ANY gear even WITH its higher compression and Web cams and my clutch will NOT slip and it presently has just over 46,000 miles on it.

Likewise, I'm entering my 5th year of the very same EBC HH sintered brake pads on my 99 Hayabusa as well as my 01 GSXR1000 (which now has just over 33,000 miles and its original clutch components).

It all depends upon how abusive you are on your clutch and brakes, so a statement of "slipper clutches require frequent replacement" is without merit. Individual usage is the sole factor for its wear.

FreaK
08-04-2008, 03:52 PM
I always remove the slipper clutch form every bike I work on. I installed the Brocks mod when my bike had 200 miles on it... no issues here.:confused:

I highly recommend it!!! Even if you are not a drag racer I see all upside and no down side.:smoke:

Quasar
08-04-2008, 08:24 PM
I always remove the slipper clutch form every bike I work on. I installed the Brocks mod when my bike had 200 miles on it... no issues here.:confused:

I highly recommend it!!! Even if you are not a drag racer I see all upside and no down side.:smoke:

The down side is pointlessly wasting money and effort to remove a clutch that isn't in need of replacement. 46,000+ miles (and 9 years later) is a damn good indication that slipper clutches aren't frail items.

Naturally, you can do as you please, but I wouldn't pull ANY clutch unless it actually required work/replacement.