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WARputer
03-18-2008, 06:13 PM
He has the Cobra GT kit car.....427 Stroker with Nitrous ....rear end , tranny ? Can the stock 05 Busa beat it in the 1/4 ??? The 1/8 ??? :umm:


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adamnflorida
03-18-2008, 06:24 PM
do you have the clutch mod done???? if so then i will put money on you..:oh yeah:

hell,i will race him for ya.. :)

WARputer
03-18-2008, 06:25 PM
do you have the clutch mod done???? if so then i will put money on you..:oh yeah:

hell,i will race him for ya.. :)

clutch mod :umm: What is this Adam ? He wants to race for big $$$'s

Falconer
03-18-2008, 06:28 PM
you might be surprised how quick they are in fact they are bike quick. 0-60 0-100 he will be right there! check performance numbers and i bet you wont race 4 $$ or pinks..lol a stock 427 cbra puts up V-MAX #'S... shit from 0-100 you cant grab a $100 bill from the sun visor of a stock cobra..never been done too many g's...pass on this one..

adamnflorida
03-18-2008, 06:28 PM
clutch mod :umm: What is this Adam ? He wants to race for big $$$'s
awww come on now chris...you HAVE to know what the clutch mod it...the stock clutch hub is 2 pieces and tends to slip hardcore when getting on it..the mod gives you heavier duty springs and makes that hub a one piece..i would get beat by 600's all day long without that,then when i changed JUST that,never lost again..:oh yeah:

WARputer
03-18-2008, 06:30 PM
you might be surprised how quick they are in fact they are bike quick. 0-60 0-100 he will be right ther!! check performance numbers and i bet you wont race 4 $$ or pinks..lol


I know...that's what scares me.....alot of guys at work have seen it run and brag about how bad it is ......:roll eyes:

awww come on now chris...you HAVE to know what the clutch mod it...the stock clutch hub is 2 pieces and tends to slip hardcore when getting on it..the mod gives you heavier duty springs and makes that hub a one piece..i would get beat by 600's all day long without that,then when i changed JUST that,never lost again..:oh yeah:

Dammit ! Another mod to add to my list ! :oh yeah:

adamnflorida
03-18-2008, 06:33 PM
I know...that's what scares me.....alot of guys at work have seen it run and brag about how bad it is ......:roll eyes:



Dammit ! Another mod to add to my list ! :oh yeah:
haha..that was my FIRSt!!! it is a must bro..i am running all heavy duty springs with washers under them..i want to make sure it won't slip again..lol.alot of people only run 3 heavies and 3 stocks..even though mine is a daily driver,i will deal with the sore left forearm.. :)

1WildTurkey
03-19-2008, 12:44 AM
Bro this might be one of those times to hang back. I don't remember what magazine I read it in, but a new Twin Turbo Cobra smoked the stock K8, it was a rolling start too. I would hate to see you loose your $$$

:confused:

Got-Busa?
03-19-2008, 05:15 AM
What tires is he running...? If he's on anything but slicks, I'd race him... :banana:

However, I'd be more affraid of him fish tailing into you than loosing. Those cars are light from a dig and can be fast....BUT....if he isn't setup correctly (like you) it could be nasty. If your local track will let you run together, why not have a little fun with him.... :oh yeah:

If he wants a HWY race, you may have your work cut out for you... :thumbs up:

toastman
03-19-2008, 07:03 AM
..lol a stock 427 cbra puts up V-MAX #'S...

....so 12 second 1/4 miles? Thats what a Vmax turns in the quarter. They turn high 9's with the V boost taken out, and a chain conversion kit installed (shaft drive gone).
:cheers

WARputer
03-19-2008, 09:28 AM
The guys at work claim that this Cobra can run high 4's in the 1/8 ....is that possible ? What's the Busa run in the 1/8 ? And yes, last time I saw the car it had Micky Thompson ET slicks.

adamnflorida
03-19-2008, 09:42 AM
The guys at work claim that this Cobra can run high 4's in the 1/8 ....is that possible ? What's the Busa run in the 1/8 ? And yes, last time I saw the car it had Micky Thompson ET slicks.

good god man...good luck with that then..a friend of mines turbo busa ran 5.20's in the 1/8 and i know a guy back home who's car runs high 4's but is DEFINETLY not street legal..

WARputer
03-19-2008, 09:45 AM
good god man...good luck with that then..a friend of mines turbo busa ran 5.20's in the 1/8

:rofl:Maybe offer to do a 1 mile roll-on .....his low gearing would putter out by then. :oh yeah:

Motorcycle Mall
03-19-2008, 11:49 AM
Just to give you a base line.... '06 Busa with Pipe, Power Commander, BMC Filter, Airbox Mod, Lowering Link in the Rear, Lowering strap up front, and someone like Keith Dennis on the bike it would probably go an 8.90's - 9.00. A good rider with those Mods, will probably go 9 "Teens".

WARputer
03-19-2008, 12:28 PM
But if a car runs high 4 or low 5's in the 1/8 th .....what's the time gonna be for the 1/4 ? I guess it depends on the gearing .

PATRIOT
03-19-2008, 01:02 PM
find out his 0-100 time
find out what he does the quater in .

if its anything over 10 sec you will beat him .

standing start is what you want , the motorbikes advantages are :
1. sheer aceleration ( rolling starts are crap ) just put the bike at the disadvantage.
2. Top end speed.

the other point is , if its not a stock car running against a busa then you run a non-stock busa against his car .

dont run a drag car against a street car ( stock) its not a level playing field.

after saying that , tell him to take his wannbe car and stick it up his bum .
tell him he isnt worth racing until he gets a timeslip for the quater mile in the 9 second barrier.

FreaK
03-19-2008, 01:11 PM
If you can ride, this is easy money.:oh yeah:

Yeah there is not much of a chance it 1/8th miles sub 5 seconds on that small of a tire.

This car runs 4.81@158 sec 1/8th..... this is the fastest drag radial car right now.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/24720396-05fe-40df-a844-9a53001f6cde.htm

Tell this joker you guys should just go to the track and bet he can't run sub 6 sec 1/8th mile.

EDIT:Oh yeah I almost forgot it would take 1850 whp to make a 3200lb car run 158 in the 1/8th. It would require 1260 whp to do it at 2200lbs.

WARputer
03-19-2008, 02:13 PM
The cobra pic I posted is not his car....I just thru that up so some guys would't get it confused with the "mustang cobra". His Cobra is tubbed with Micky Thompson ET slicks ....looks like about a 20 inch wide tire .

The owner hasn't talked any junk ...mainly our co-workers are egging me on to run him . The Cobra guy's only input was....he only runs for $$$. :oh yeah:

Warlock
03-19-2008, 03:26 PM
....so 12 second 1/4 miles? Thats what a Vmax turns in the quarter. They turn high 9's with the V boost taken out, and a chain conversion kit installed (shaft drive gone).
:cheers

What? No they don't... where did you dig up those numbers??....

Tybalt
03-19-2008, 03:56 PM
What? No they don't... where did you dig up those numbers??....
Sorry he meant high 11's:rofl: like 11.90's:rofl:

Falconer
03-19-2008, 05:57 PM
all i can say is YOUR GONNA GET BEAT!! LOL.. his traction advantage outta the hole and a stock busa will wheelie big. is all he needs.. add to that the shock of a freakin car passing you at 130mph and the crap you will hear @ work... now a roll on might be in your favor and i would personally put up $500 to find out but any more than that is $$ i need for tires!! i raced a few cars like a sick viper once and i was shocked at the brute force these cars are capable of. $500 is gentleman bet imho..more is like playing lotto..

PATRIOT
03-19-2008, 06:01 PM
allways do it over 2 miles
that way you can hit 300 and he cant .

FreaK
03-19-2008, 06:09 PM
all i can say is YOUR GONNA GET BEAT!! LOL.. his traction advantage outta the hole and a stock busa will wheelie big. is all he needs.. add to that the shock of a freakin car passing you at 130mph and the crap you will hear @ work... now a roll on might be in your favor and i would personally put up $500 to find out but any more than that is $$ i need for tires!! i raced a few cars like a sick viper once and i was shocked at the brute force these cars are capable of. $500 is gentleman bet imho..more is like playing lotto..


Uh, unless he has NO drag racing experience this is an easy race. I ran 9.72@143 on a completely stock 06 Busa..... that Cobra will not run 9.73. Now if you roll race him from 70.... you might lose. Roll racing bikes against cars is something I know a great deal about (from the car side).:thumbs up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPJ1WpcKjRw

My Cobra will outrun a stock Hayabusa from a roll..... ask me how I know. It weighs 3760lbs and makes 620rwhp, fastest 1/4 mile was 10.83@135, but from a roll it stays with my buddys 9.40 ZX10.:oh yeah:

WARputer
03-19-2008, 06:34 PM
Great vid Freak !!! I've always wanted a Cobra ....but a new GT 500 will do also. :oh yeah:

FreaK
03-19-2008, 08:19 PM
Great vid Freak !!! I've always wanted a Cobra ....but a new GT 500 will do also. :oh yeah:


Yes, a new 500 will do just fine!:cheers:

WARputer
03-19-2008, 08:26 PM
Yes, a new 500 will do just fine!:cheers:

It's one bad ass ride but the $40,000 + price tag is real hard to swallow ! :rant: I've been a fan of the Mustangs since I can remember but have yet to get one.

FreaK
03-19-2008, 10:09 PM
I have had more than my share, have been thinking of selling the 03 for a while now. I bought it new on June 28 2002 and it still has less than 10 k miles on it. I hardly ever drive it anymore.

WARputer
03-19-2008, 10:19 PM
I have had more than my share, have been thinking of selling the 03 for a while now. I bought it new on June 28 2002 and it still has less than 10 k miles on it. I hardly ever drive it anymore.


I haven't got one 'cause I figured the Busa is more fun and better on gas anyway. :oh yeah:

Got-Busa?
03-19-2008, 10:41 PM
Uh, unless he has NO drag racing experience this is an easy race. I ran 9.72@143 on a completely stock 06 Busa..... that Cobra will not run 9.73. Now if you roll race him from 70.... you might lose. Roll racing bikes against cars is something I know a great deal about (from the car side).:thumbs up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPJ1WpcKjRw

My Cobra will outrun a stock Hayabusa from a roll..... ask me how I know. It weighs 3760lbs and makes 620rwhp, fastest 1/4 mile was 10.83@135, but from a roll it stays with my buddys 9.40 ZX10.:oh yeah:

I'm going to have to call BS on this. No way is a 620rwhp KB Cobra going to run with a stock BUSA. Trapping 135mph isn't nearly enough to take a stock BUSA or ZX10....

I've had both, I know exactly what mods are needed to beat the other. I can post my old video racing a 700rwhp+ Viper if you want to compare results.




The only real issue here is if WARputer can ride....?



WARputer,

If you've been to the track a few times and run anything 10.0 or 9's I think you have a good chance of winning (if you know how to launch on the street). If the car isn't trapping 144+ I think you will also pull him from a 40 or 60 roll up to 160mph. If you aren't comfortable with the launch it won't take much for an 11-second car to stay with you...

WARputer
03-19-2008, 10:47 PM
Never been on the track but in my defense .....riding bikes for 22 years and launched against a crap load of cars/bikes in my younger days......most recently a Subaru Impezna WRX( spanked him)......which I know isn't anything compared to this guys Cobra . I figure if it's a street race for a mile or so, he'll top out quickly . :confused:No way that I'd run him in the 1/4 ....on a track !

Got-Busa?
03-19-2008, 11:12 PM
If you are racing for that distance, I think you will have no problem. I'd have to look at the car or find more info to think otherwise... :cool:

FreaK
03-19-2008, 11:14 PM
I'm going to have to call BS on this. No way is a 620rwhp KB Cobra going to run with a stock BUSA. Trapping 135mph isn't nearly enough to take a stock BUSA or ZX10....

I've had both, I know exactly what mods are needed to beat the other. I can post my old video racing a 700rwhp+ Viper if you want to compare results.




The only real issue here is if WARputer can ride....?



WARputer,

If you've been to the track a few times and run anything 10.0 or 9's I think you have a good chance of winning (if you know how to launch on the street). If the car isn't trapping 144+ I think you will also pull him from a 40 or 60 roll up to 160mph. If you aren't comfortable with the launch it won't take much for an 11-second car to stay with you...


People like you are the reason I still get people to race me for money, lol. GG:cheers:

WARputer
03-19-2008, 11:15 PM
If you are racing for that distance, I think you will have no problem. I'd have to look at the car or find more info to think otherwise... :cool:

I'm gonna corner him at work and get the low down on gearing, the nitrous....tranny set-up and maybe the truth about his ET's. :oh yeah:

Got-Busa?
03-20-2008, 12:04 AM
People like you are the reason I still get people to race me for money, lol. GG:cheers:
Okay.... :roll eyes:


:rofl:


What color is your 03 Termi...?